Beth Sarim

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  SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

  ( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

  https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

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  Beth Sarim

  Yes.

  The Revelation Climax book.

  Impactful book.

  Its just so poignant. Its just beyond ironic. The Borg hammered its contents into the $heeples heads for so long.

  Then an ""insert"". Then dumped cold turkey. Weird.

  No longer even in print.
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  SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

  ( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

  https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

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  Beth Sarim

  Ahhhhh yes.

  The Revelation Climax book.

  The book that ''scared" me into getting baptized when I was young,,impression..and terriblly naive

  The very book that led to my awakening in 2007.

  Ironic!!.

  That ""book"" was the go to book for many,,many years & led to my awakening in 2006\07 or so.

  That book was studied by the congregations so incessantly.

  Along came thay ''insert" around 2007,,,something like that. After the Borg was discovered to be a UN NGO affiliate for 9 years

  Then the Revelation Climax book was unceremoniously dumped after about 1 use with the insert.

  Its not rocket science as why that book was scrapped and no longer to be found.
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  SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

  ( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

  https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

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  Beth Sarim

  I have my original 1988 Revelation Climax book in pristine condition.

  The one that we went through,,,I forget how many times..

  The original copy without the "insert",,,, the original copy before the Borg got "busted" as a UN NGO affiliate.

  You should have seen the looks I got one time during the the CO visit around 2007 or so. We were doing the Revelation Climax book,,,& I did NOT have the ""updated insert"". I only had the "original"

  You'll have to pry my original 1988 Revelation Climax book from my cold dead hands.

  
  
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  "Everyone Wants To Leave"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.

  his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.

  it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?

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  Beth Sarim

  Everyone is different.

  Some never ''wake up"".

  You have to have your own ""come to"" or ''ahaaa thats it"".

  We have to accept the fact that some don't and/or we can't do it for them.

  Its the way it is.
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  I think I know what the GB is doing

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  read:.

  but if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘my master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards.

  hmm... let's see is anyone on the governing body a strict master and a drunkard?

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  Beth Sarim

  "More accurate to say look at that little 'enemy' of God."

  
  
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  Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

  as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

  attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

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  Beth Sarim

  ""God cannot lie"".

  But, then again, an organization can.
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  Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

  as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

  attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

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  Beth Sarim

  Lying= theocratic warfare.
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Beth Sarim

  Its like this 2 class system of salvation the Borg clings to. They cant " scrap it".

  The blood doctrine.

  The shunning policy..

  & Not but definitely NOT least. The 2 witnesses rule.

  If they ''scrap" ANY of the above. The Borg collapses.

  Same with the 587 & 1914 date tied to it. Thats the fine thread holding it all together. Its like having a knit sweater. If you start taking the "thread" out,,, your sweater is shredded. Torn to bits.
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  Things you can not say in "field service" anymore.

  by greenhornet in

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  2. friends

  many years ago we would be on someone's doorstep, when waiting for the house holder to come to the door we say something like ... yea after the big a this is going to be my house.

  imagine saying that today with the common use of doorbell cameras and the squatting problem .

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  Beth Sarim

  No. NO.

  The modern ""techy"" area is the kryptonite for the Borg.

  The old school ways,,,like that of going door to door,,,,are dead.
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  Spiritual Paradise? Jehovah's Witness cons JW seniors out of life savings.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  3/28/2024 central california coast.

  found guilty of $1.2 million scam targeting seniors.

  ex-insurance agent brett e. lovett convicted of fraud, elder abuse, grand theft, and money laundering".

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  Beth Sarim

  Conning seniors out of their life savings.

  Lowest blow of the lowest low blows.